Sunday, May 17, 2015

Fading Light, Expert Geneticist? Well, No.

Stormfronter ColdFire made a startlingly original observation recently:


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Lightbulb Race-mixing : Let's look at the World

( Dear opposers of Stormfront ! ) :

Hello to all our resident Anti's from India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, North Korea or wherever on God's green Earth you may dwell 


How y'all b!tches doing ?      


Don't you find it peculiar that the countries which consist of un-mixed races also happen to be the most stabile ?  


You can tell that ColdFire is excited about his revelation by all the happy smilies rolling around.  Well, lurker Joe Trucker had some questions.


Stormfront censors posts? How can you say that...?

I am having a lot of fun catching up with the Stormfront today.  I have pointed out several times that Stormfront censors the views that are posted to the Opposing Viewpoints forum at Stormfront.org.  The following is amazing both for its feigned outrage at the charge and for its unconscious admission that indeed Stormfront censors posts.  To add to the hilarity, this post is stickied! Notice Some American's admission that there is pressure to censor out posts (I added boldface). It should be pointed out that this thread is closed. It lasted about 2 months.  Of course the notion that an actual open forum was ever allowed just on Some American's word, is suspect right out of the gate.



Race Mixing = Genocide



White "Nationalists" are not known for the logical cogency, true that.  I still get surprised at just how stunningly obtuse and twisted their failed attempts at applying reason can be.  Unfortunately, truth does not always win the day and when push comes to shove I am afraid that logic and reason are often the first of humanity's great advances to fly out the window.  Scared people are not known to think logically and, in fact, fear inhibits reason.  So, I try to be understanding when I see arguments that inter-racial marriage and offspring are the a form of genocide against the "White Race."  This argument, of course, coming from deniers of the Holocaust.  Oh well, here's an example:


Redback Elk Speaks

Another thoughtful post, this time by Redback Elk.  I will focus here on the response by Lord Jim.  I will not post Lord Jim's entire rant to save on length, but you can view the thread here.  I will start with Redback Elk's post:


No, Jews are not Causing White Genocide


This was posted by "George Costanza" on January 18, 2015.  Notice how careful George is to lay out a coherent, rational argument with little or no appeal to insult (you are a more patient man than I, George!):

Hello everyone. First of all, I wanted to say that I am anti-racist and I have decided to post here to explain why I see common WN views as untrue. I am going to try to explain why I think it is absolutely untrue that there is any sort of ``white genocide`` being carried out by Jews in this thread. This isn`t a thread about the benefits or lack thereof of racial diversity but just about common WN views on the Jews`role in this matter. 

Lies of the Stormfront

If you have ever had the pleasure to interact with Stormfront.org, you know that the site manipulates, edits, censors, and bans opposing viewpoints.  This is true even on the "opposing viewpoints" forum, the purpose of which is "For all our opponents who want to argue with White Nationalists."  Any opponent who does off cogent rebuttals of white supremacist myths are quickly deemed "trolls" who only want to insult and argue and are then banned.  The purpose of this blog will be to allow those individuals a voice. I will repost their words here and allow a free discussion so we can actually bring the logical fallacies and false history to light.  I will include Stormfront responses to make it clear how they operate.  I will also sometimes post my own responses which never get published.

By the way, I did used to post on Stormfront from time to time.  Most of my posts were never published, the rest were edited.  Finally, I was banned, which is the fate of anyone who actually takes up Stormfront's invitation to post:

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Your account has been disabled for the following reason: Too many personal attacks and too much trolling
Date your account will be reenabled: Never


Personal attacks and "trolling" in White Nationalist circles simply means posting reasonable and sane arguments disagreeing with White Nationalist mantras.

Thank you for reading and I welcome comments and discussion from all sides.