Race Mixing = Genocide

White "Nationalists" are not known for the logical cogency, true that.  I still get surprised at just how stunningly obtuse and twisted their failed attempts at applying reason can be.  Unfortunately, truth does not always win the day and when push comes to shove I am afraid that logic and reason are often the first of humanity's great advances to fly out the window.  Scared people are not known to think logically and, in fact, fear inhibits reason.  So, I try to be understanding when I see arguments that inter-racial marriage and offspring are the a form of genocide against the "White Race."  This argument, of course, coming from deniers of the Holocaust.  Oh well, here's an example:



Stormfront.com visitor, thatsracist, posted:

thatsracist Forum Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 2

Let's focus on one underlying assumption: "Race mixing = Genocide" One thing I would like to understand more about is the whole notion that miscegenation constitutes genocide. But anyway, my main point is that, without any actual force at play or restriction of fundamental rights, I do not see how you can call "race mixing" an act of genocide. Last edited by Fading Light; 05-15-2015 at 06:27 PM. Reason: Removed insults and irrelevancies so that we can have a civilized conversation like adults

Perfectly reasonable, right?  Like 99.99% of sane, rational people would agree with thatsracist's point here. Of course, the demographics on Stormfront are skewed toward the less sane, less rational portion of society.  Notice, too, that this post was edited by Fading Light, claiming insults removed, but the fragment left does not suggest a tone that was overly insulting.  We have to take Fading Light's word for it and, well, it is Fading Light, so that has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Here is a typical response:

Bellatrix mobile white culture unit "Friend of Stormfront" Sustaining Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,113 Blog Entries: 35

Re: Let's focus on one underlying assumption: "Race mixing = Genocide" Ah, you may think you're free in choosing your partner, but you're not. You can only choose from what is available. Introduce a massive influx of other races, and people will start choosing them for mates rather randomly, because people mate based on available selection. In another scenario, where whites only ever have whites to interact with, they only ever marry whites and the race survives. In other words, introducing other races into a society and integrating them counts as bringing about the conditions of life that will result in racial extermination. That's genocide. So yes, even if an interracial relationship is voluntary, those in power responsible for allowing that non-white into a white society are guilty of calculating genocide of white people. It's not the people in the relationships themselves, since most people don't know better (and this information is suppressed), but rather the lawmakers and media who are guilty of genocide.

See here?  Because "those in power" allow whites to intermarry with nonwhites they are purposely committing genocide.  People ought not have the right to select their mates because when they do, they willingly select mates that will lead to genocide.  Set aside the fact that an overwhelming percentage of white people choose to marry and produce offspring with other white people.  

When you get into the twisted logic of White Nationalism you find that things are not quite as you have come to think.  For example, genocide isn't the deliberate murder of a particular ethnicity, deliberate killing doesn't have anything to do with it.  That's why White Nationalists can defend Hitler from charges of genocide but hold up "those in power" who favor allowing people to marry whomever they want as exemplars of genocidal maniacs.  They point to a 68 year old definition of genocide as their foundation:

Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.

To White Nationalists, US immigration policy coupled with the legal allowance of mixed ethnic marriages constitutes a "coordinated plan of different actions" with the intent to destroy the "White Nation."  Of course what the evidence that they claim is only circumstantial.  US policies allow a certain number of immigrants to enter and inter-racial marriage is legal.  Added to that, Jewish control of Hollywood propagandizes mixed marriages (but, um, well, didn't it take a long time for Hollywood to recognize what was already, in fact, occurring, oh right, this is WN logic here). 

As usual, the author of the OP expressed discontent at having his or her post edited:

thatsracist Forum Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 2

Re: Let's focus on one underlying assumption: "Race mixing = Genocide" Speaking of logical fallacies, by cherry picking what you are willing to leave up here for people to see, are you not creating a straw man? You've managed to turn me off of your site completely in only a couple of hours. That's almost impressive. I'm outta here.

That's ok, because you would have been banned anyway.  They were already working up to that.

Lord Jim "Friend of Stormfront" Sustaining Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Occupied California Posts: 6,743 Blog Entries: 20

Re: Let's focus on one underlying assumption: "Race mixing = Genocide" Quote: Originally Posted by thatsracist  Speaking of logical fallacies, by cherry picking what you are willing to leave up here for people to see For somebody with only two posts, you have regurgitated the same complaint as one of our most notorious sock puppets. Can't you clowns say anything new?

In Jim's view, a new person asking a question asked before is really just the same person over and over again.  Of course, newcomers are going to want to know about the bizarre belief systems of the White Nationalists and they are invited to post in this very forum:

"Opposing Views Forum For all our opponents who want to argue with White Nationalists."

Average Joe weighs in with some advice for posters:

AnAverageJoe Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: NC Posts: 147

Re: Let's focus on one underlying assumption: "Race mixing = Genocide" For the sake of other guests who stop by to browse, here's some advice (this pertains to all places you wish to have a rational discussion): Be respectful and bring up your topic in a civil manner. Doing so will greatly improve your chances of engaging the readers and will more likely lead to a proper discussion. Neglecting to do this will make you appear childish, inept, a troll, or possibly mentally deranged. Few will want to "discuss" anything with you if they feel you are just here to troll about. If you have a genuine disagreement with some ideal that many people here share, feel free to bring up a discussion about it. Just do it in a civilized manner and you will likely get civilized responses. Are you afraid your viewpoint may be changed? If you are so sure of your point of view, you should have no fear of discussing it and having facts, figures, statistics, and so forth thrown your way (instead of feces). You should be throwing facts, figures, statistics and so forth at us if your view point is indeed valid. You could probably rip apart this community if you can prove we are indeed WRONG. Most of us are actually quite rational. Some may be a little nutty but in every group there are a few nuts.

Of course we know all this is BS as we have seen the reaction to very reasonable posters such Redback Elk and George Costanza.  

ADDENDUM:

I love this genius idea by Stormfronter 

the White Dragon Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 50

Re: Let's focus on one underlying assumption: "Race mixing = Genocide" Introducing other races in small numbers into a native population is NOT genocide. In fact some Whites have 'weaker' builds, e.g. become sicker easier, have lower IQ's, have many congenital problems, etc. If these Whites breed with outsiders, then it's not a problem. As long as they maintain low birth rates, and the higher IQ, healthier, more law abiding and racially aware Whites have higher birth rates and maintain control of power, money and resources. Whites need a strong eugenics problem in place. Too many 'undesirables' can burden the overall growth and development of a culture and economy. A small, controlled amount of miscegenation in certain regions is desirable. Just because they are not White does not mean they are the enemy. Every nation needs an effective genetic buffer to reduce tension and conflict along borders between different ethnic groups.

I think that WD here means "Whites need a strong eugenics program in place...."  But what does this poster mean by "controlled miscegenation?"  Seriously, these people are insane.

SB